Okay, you want to start or you want me to?
You go ahead.
I'll correct you.
1979 when we got here was really the old University.
Doors weren't locked, there were no signs.
It was also of a place that had values and culture and an identity.
And the best part of it was that it was allowed to change.
Both Pat and I came in 1979, she was working for housing.
I was working in the dean of students office and she would walk by
and so I would say hello to her.
We didn't necessarily like each other. I was going to say that.
Okay.
Six years later, I decided to take her out on a date.
That was our only date.
That's right.
We were married on Halloween because the chapel was available
and therefore our anniversary is trick or treating on the Lawn
Living in Pavilions for for 19 years was an absolute joy.
We experienced a lot of things together when there weren't people around.
both in the feeling of the space and the feeling for each other
and you knew it was very special.
If we've never had a honeymoon, and we can't celebrate our anniversary
every year, then you rely on moments in order to build
and maintain a relationship.
I mean, it's changed our lives. Right? Right.
I do feel incredibly lucky that we've had a pretty rich life.
Yeah, absolutely.