Q&A: What keeps us dreaming about space? Neil deGrasse Tyson talks about why we’re obsessed

What do we get wrong about space?

That’s the subject of astrophysicist and “Cosmos” host Neil deGrasse Tyson’s upcoming lecture at the University of Virginia’s John Paul Jones Arena. JPJ will host Tyson Wednesday for a talk titled “Delusions of Space Enthusiasts.” Tickets are still available

UVA Today spoke with Tyson ahead of the lecture about our ongoing fascination with outer space and what he would change about “Cosmos.”

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Q. The talk you’re going to give is called “Delusions of Space Enthusiasts.” What deludes people about space?

A. Everything. This is not just the delusions of astrophysics enthusiasts. This is the people who thought, in 1970, when we were walking on the moon, that by 1985 we would be walking on Mars. You could have known at the time that that was not going to happen. That disconnect is deep and persistent, and I explore this. 

For example, what role are the billionaire boys – Richard Branson, Jeff Bezos – going to play in the space race and the future of space tourism? Is Elon Musk really going to send a rocket to Mars, and if he does, how will he get there and why?

In the 1950s and ’60s, people dreamed about a tomorrow that never came, with jetpacks and flying cars. This talk is an exploration of where we are versus where we thought we’d be in space. It contains basically every thought I’ve ever had about our past, present and future in space.

Q. Have you ever been a deluded space enthusiast?

A. I try to be a realistic, rational person. I’m old enough to remember how people wrote about the future in the 1960s, but by the 1970s, I was rational enough. I knew I wanted to be a scientist since age 11, so I was able to analyze these statements and ideas, and it was pretty clear there was a mismatch from very early on.

Q. Why do you think space is so fascinating for nonscientists?

A. I think it’s because we all look up and wonder, and looking up is a grander exercise than looking down. We depict most of our deities as being up on mountaintops or in the clouds. We don’t depict them in a hole in the ground; always high up, so the wonder and awe and majesty of our existence is captured up there.

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Not only that, but astrophysics is a gateway science. There’s chemistry going into the formation of planets in stars. We need biologists for the search for life in the universe.

Q. A lot of people were introduced to you through “Cosmos.” What is one of the most interesting things we’ve learned about space since that show aired?

A. “Cosmos” aired twice, once in 2014, and once in 2020, right on time for COVID. Since then, we’ve launched the James Webb telescope, which has given us insights into the early universe. It can view objects too old, distant or faint for the Hubble telescope to detect.

Q. Are there any subjects you didn’t get to cover in “Cosmos” that you would want to revisit?

A. The topics for “Cosmos” were chosen because they had a long shelf life – things that had lessons from history or certain bits of wisdom we needed to evoke for our future. They had deep personal and humanistic values. A lot of that is from Ann Druyan, Carl Sagan’s widow (Sagan was an astrophysicist and hosted the original “Cosmos” series), who co-authored all three “Cosmos” series.

Since we chose topics with a long shelf life, you don’t have to rush to redo it. If anything, certain warnings are more dire. We did an episode on climate change, and I sometimes wonder, “Is any of this any good at all? Does it have any value if people are going to continue ignoring the warnings of scientists?” Then the other side of me says, “Imagine how much worse it would be.” So, I don’t know what to think.

Q. Do you have any advice for college students who are interested in astrophysics?

A. When you’re in college, your main job is to learn. You might have a job on the side, but your purpose is to learn as much as you can. After that, there’s no organized way to learn in life unless your school instilled in you a love of learning and a curiosity you maintain after graduation.

If there’s a class you can take that’s a little bit harder, take it. Go out of your comfort zone. The more of these hard classes you take, the more people will come knocking on your door, because you’re the person who can solve problems.

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